Hooniverse Panther Edition Weekend – 1984 and 1994 Lincoln Town Cars; Which is more Desirable?

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Hooniverse Panther Edition Weekend – 1984 and 1994 Lincoln Town Cars; Which is more Desirable?


This is a continuation of our special Panther Edition Weekend. So, many of you are asking why I am doing this Special Panther Edition Weekend, and can we get something other than Ford Posts? I thought this was as good a time as any to explain the weekend postings here on Hooniverse. Since I took over the editing Weekends here, I have been striving to try and carve out a “destination” for all of our fans to check out on the weekends. I stumbled onto having a special set of postings, or themes if you will, about a year ago with the Hooniverse Maximum Corvair Day edition. Since then, I have done a Malaise-O-Rama Weekend, A Van-Tastic Weekend, A Fabulous Fins Weekend, A Lost Car Weekend, and a Rare Foreign Car Weekend, among others.
So this is the Hooniverse Panther Edition Weekend, in honor of the Last Ford Crown Victoria that was produced this past Thursday. We have discovered a Supercharged Crown Victoria, A Rare 2-Door LTD Crown Victoria, A Metric Mercury Marauder, A Lincoln Continental Mark VI Givenchy, A Lincoln Town Hearse, Two Panther Wagons, A Box and a Bubble, and this one. Here we are with two very low mileage, Panther based Lincoln Town Cars, separated by a decade of production. Which one is more desirable?


Let’s start with the older car, which is a 1984 Lincoln Continental Town Car, finished in a beautiful Sky Blue, and a Dark Blue Leather Interior. This car has just over 57,000 miles on the odometer, and according to the listing:

THIS CAR FIRES RIGHT UP WITH THE TURN OF THE KEY AND DRIVES LIKE A DREAM! THE RIDE IS SO SMOOTH!
POWER STEERING IS EFFORTLESS! BRAKES ARE GREAT! ALL POWER WINDOWS WORK! POWER DOOR LOCKS WORK! POWER ANTENNA AND RADIO WORKS! ALL LIGHTS (EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR) WORK! AIR CONDITIONING BLOWS COLD!! ALL INSTRUMENTATION WORKS (LOOK AT THE MILES TO EMPTY DISPLAY)! THE 5.0L WINDSOR V8 MOVES OUT WITH 155 HORSEPOWER AND 265 LB/FT OF TORQUE!


This car has a Buy-it-Now price of $4,500, which isn’t really too bad in the conditions its in. See the listing here.

The listing for our next car has ended, but its still one very classy, if a bit overwrought, Lincoln Town Car. This car is finished in a Kelly Green, with a Green Carriage Roof, and a Tan Leather Interior. This one shows only 29,000 miles, and according to the listing:

1994 Lincoln Town Car “Executive Series”: Only 29,130 Actual Miles, Dark Green w/ Tan Leather, Green Top, Loaded w/ All Lincoln Town Car Options!!!!! ***Never In An Accident*** All Owner’s Manuals, Spare Tire Never Down, ***ABSOLUTELY LIKE SHOWROOM NEW!!!!!**** BOUGHT NEW AT NICK MAYER LINCOLN-MERCURY!!!! THIS IS ONE OF THE LOWEST MILEAGE AND NICEST 94′ TOWN CARS IN THE COUNTRY!


This dealer is in Western New York, and the dealer he talked about in the ad is based near Cleveland Ohio, so I don’t get the connection. Anyway, it looks like this car sold for the $9,900 Buy-it-Now asking price, or not (who knows). See the listing here.

Are either of these two Lincoln Town Cars worth the money, or would you kust pass them by. Let me know, and please comment about our Hooniverse Theme Weekends in general.

By |2011-09-18T11:11:57+00:00September 18th, 2011|For Sale, Weekend Edition|33 Comments

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  1. Devin September 18, 2011 at 11:25 am - Reply

    Whether or not I like the cars in this particular theme (turns out I'm not a Panther fan, which was good to learn), the theme weekends are great, keep them coming. The lost cars were my favorite thus far.
    Also, $10k for a '94 Town Car with a half-assed aftermarket vinyl top is crazytown.

    • IronBallsMcG September 18, 2011 at 12:32 pm - Reply

      Completely agree in regards to both Panthers and themes. Even when a theme subject is not my thing I love the opportunity to see something a little more in depth

  2. James September 18, 2011 at 11:30 am - Reply

    In highschool a friend's mother had a white one that looked just like the blue '84 (except the color of course). She wouldn't trust him to drive it, but for some reason she trusted me with it, so when we'd be working on his car and need something from the store, I got to play big pimpin' and drive the TC. I thought it was SO frickin' awesome at the time. My family was still rolling a 1977 Peugeot 504 and the TC had way more awesome than the 504 to a 17 year old.
    Now, 25 years later, I'm reading this Hooniverse post contemplating the horror of having to choose between these two barges… and I find myself thinking about how nice a car a Peugeot 504 really is…
    If I had to choose from these two cars, I'd pick the blue '84 merely because of a tiny bit of sentimentality about high school hoonery. But I consider being forced to drive either a fate worse than scooters…
    I'll be happy with Panther weekend is over…

  3. tonyola September 18, 2011 at 11:37 am - Reply

    As with the early Panther Fords, I don't have much love for the early Panther Lincolns. Too starched and boxy, and the 1985 facelift with the slanted rear and cleaner bumpers was a big improvement. I think the 1990 restyling of the Lincoln was even better, and the cleaned-up 1995-1997 cars were the best of the Panther Lincolns (I've pictured a 1996). One important aspect of the 1990 and later cars was that you didn't need to accept a vinyl roof anymore – hurray! As for these two cars, I'd have to go for the starchy '84. The '94 is too expensive, too green, and that roof covering is horrible
    <img src="http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2008/02/11/17/44/1995_lincoln_town_car_4_dr_executive_sedan-pic-29927.jpeg"&gt;

  4. facelvega September 18, 2011 at 11:47 am - Reply

    I get the impression everybody likes the themed weekends. I think what happened this time is that some of us are overdosed on panther stories from keeping up with too many car websites. Nothing to worry about.
    On the town car question, it's harder to decide between first and second generation than between either of them and the bloated, cheapo third gen. The first gen are more old detroit, with the Greek temple grille and fake wood door inserts, while in comparison every detail of the second gen is more serious, sober, and sensible. But hey, acres of rich blue leather versus plain old tan? We have a winner, before even factoring in the price difference. Also kind of prefer a Windsor to a modular 4.6, but maybe that's just me.

  5. Rust-MyEnemy September 18, 2011 at 11:58 am - Reply

    Got to go with the '84, though I love them both.
    The '84 carries rather a lot more irono-cool, though. Rock the '84 today and my homies (in, er, rural England) will guess I've got some kinda retro trip going down. Drive the '94, though, and I'm just borrowing my Grandads ride.
    Which, ironically makes the '94 sort of the equivalent of my own Rover….

    • tonyola September 18, 2011 at 12:24 pm - Reply

      We never got the second-generation Rover 800 in the US because Rover (Sterling) stopped selling cars in America after 1991. However, I remember seeing a prototype for a second-gen 800 sedan in Miami in early 1989. I didn't know what it was until I saw pictures in CAR magazine a couple years later. It must have been doing warm-weather testing and maybe at that time, Rover was still intending on selling it in the US as a next-generation Sterling.

      • Rust-MyEnemy September 18, 2011 at 1:22 pm - Reply

        I'm gonna be doing a posting on Roadwork pretty soon about how the 800/Sterling was marketed in totally different ways between the UK and US; read the '88 Sterling brochure and AR USA really emphasise the Honda link, whereas in Europe any Japanese involvement was somewhat brushed under the carpet in official literature.
        Of course, in late '80s America, purebred British cars had a less than stellar reputation…

  6. dukeisduke September 18, 2011 at 12:04 pm - Reply

    Take the vinyl roof and the chrome wheelwell moldings off, and I'll take the '94, for $5k.

  7. dukeisduke September 18, 2011 at 12:10 pm - Reply

    The '84, is that the last year for the carburetor?

  8. fede6882 September 18, 2011 at 1:03 pm - Reply

    Themed weekends are great, and as IronBallsMcG said, even if the subject isn't my thing it's great to have the oportunity to learn more. So please keep them coming (may I ask for something more 40ish?)
    About the Panthers, to my Uruguayan mind, this 80s and 90s cars are "the" american car: very big, v8, chrome, vinyl and automatic. Although I dream about owing an Alfa 75, I just love these cars, take the vinyl out of the 94 and I would make it mine (but so far the best to me was the mercury or the 92 crown victoria).

  9. TurboBrick September 18, 2011 at 1:59 pm - Reply

    If that '94 was a slicktop instead of having that awful toupee, there would be no contest. But as it is, you might as well go with the '84, at least it's more "authentically tasteless".

    • FuzzyPlushroom September 18, 2011 at 2:06 pm - Reply

      I find myself agreeing. The top is overdone, but it's the only thing I really dislike about the '94 (well, the chrome arches could stay or go). Green's just a great colour, I think, and I wouldn't mind a '94 or '95 Town Car at all.

      • Devin September 18, 2011 at 2:22 pm - Reply

        The top is very scary – it's clearly not well done, really lumpy and stuff. I bet that roof is rusty as hell under there since it's probably a water trap.

        • The Professor September 18, 2011 at 3:28 pm - Reply

          Yes, from the pictures, it looks like there are lumps where the roof ribs are located. If so, that's really crappy fit and finish work, and I'd worry about rust everywhere. I like the colors of the car though, it's a nice combo.

          • UDman September 18, 2011 at 3:44 pm

            The Roof of the Green Town Car is a Simulated Convertible Roof. The reason for the "Lumps" is to simulate where the roof "Bows" would have been if this were in fact an actual convertible top. As far as under the roof, the carriage roof conversion companies used a fiberglass "cap" that was attached to the roof somehow. The Cloth for the Carriage Roof was then adhered to the fiberglass substructure, and then sealed to the rear glass, and the door frames if they were separate.
            On of the most interesting aspects of the "Simulated" Convertible top was the fact that it was a creation of ASC, the people who pioneered sunroof installations for the Detroit Big Four in the 60 and 70s. It was commissioned by Ford for their new "Designer" Lincoln Mark V models, the Bill Blass Edition. That came in a Navy Blue and White two-tone, with a Simulated Convertible Top. Remember at this time, convertibles were nearly extinct because of pending roll over regulations proposed by the DOT. So, if you couldn't have a real one, a simulation was the next best thing….

          • The Professor September 18, 2011 at 4:38 pm

            That's very interesting, and I was unaware of such a thing. The funny thing is that when I was looking at the pictures I was thinking "You know, that looks a lot like a convertible top would look, if there was such a thing on one of these cars." It's good to know that my eyes aren't completely shot. Thanks for the info, I learned something today.

      • TurboBrick September 18, 2011 at 2:26 pm - Reply

        Yep, yep… The color combo is not bad at all, it's outright unusual in today's drab landscape. The chrome arches would have to go, every time I see them I think automatically "fenders lip is rusted". '95's have a more modern looking interior.

  10. BlackIce_GTS September 18, 2011 at 2:32 pm - Reply

    Tricky choice for me. Town Cars are my favourite Panthers, but each of these has minor personal taste conflicts. The '84 is a small one; it isn't black. If I were to have an example of this generation of Town Car, it would have to be black. I'd keep a shovel in the trunk and tell people to 'fuget' about things.
    The second generation seems more government agent then wise guy for some reason. But not in this colour, if it were black I'd carry a shovel in the trunk and tell people they didn't see anything. I like the green (unlike the blue, which is just boring), my problem is with the chrome fender mouldings and the vinyl roof. If it was only the back half, it would work, but ideally there wouldn't be any at all.
    I guess I have to vote for the '84. I'd drive it as-is, where operation of the '94 would be contingent on how cleanly the roof peels off.
    Speaking of Urban Bovines, where's Tanshanomi this weekend?

  11. tonyola September 18, 2011 at 2:46 pm - Reply

    It's interesting that every single 1980-1989 Panther Lincoln I've ever seen has had some sort of roof covering. Most of the time it's a half-roof but some full-covered models were also made. I'm curious as to what one would see if the coverings were peeled off. It's known that Cadillac put vinyl roofs on 1975-1976 Sevilles to cover up some body seams. The seams were fixed for 1977 and a painted-roof option was offered. I wonder if there aren't some ugly seams or joins hiding under the roof covers of the Lincolns.

    • The Professor September 18, 2011 at 3:22 pm - Reply

      Interesting question, and I have no idea. Perhaps one of our auto body Hoons will see your comment and helps us out.

      • 86 vanisland lincoln December 3, 2013 at 3:37 pm - Reply

        yeah I have a 1986 Lincoln T/c signature series with I believe every option anyone know how good the air suspention in the back is good for? mine still works amazingly , and its 2013! has the half padded roof I just refinished it in black looks miles better than faded brown ,it did look the exact same as in lincolns 1986 commercial. next is re paint the car black lol bought car for 150$ plus a motorbike as a trade. everything still works even the digital dash just needed a heater core and new bulbs in the dash.

    • UDman September 18, 2011 at 3:48 pm - Reply

      The heavily padded vinyl roof was promoted during the 70's as a way of making the interior even quieter than without one. It did have an effect of insulating the interior from excess noise, and help the climate control system do its job, but all that went out the window when it became regulated to 1/2 roofs, 1/4 roof caps, and gigantic sunroofs.

    • Thrashy September 18, 2011 at 6:04 pm - Reply

      http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthread.php?39394-
      Looks like there were some seams underneath there, but nothing that couldn't have been designed out or filled in if they'd wanted to do it. I think the vinyl was more conscious design choice than band-aid.

      • tonyola September 18, 2011 at 6:22 pm - Reply

        I appreciate the pictures but I still think Lincoln might be a special case. The Town Car sedans were built on a longer wheelbase than the Ford or Mercury and had a longer roof and thicker C-pillar to accommodate a larger passenger compartment and the vertical opera window behind the rear door. I wonder whether Ford used a whole different stamping for the TC roof or whether it was done with fillers and spacers like some other formal-roofed cars in the 1980s. Both the Grand Marquis and Crown Vic were available in painted-roof versions, but as far as I know, the 1980-1989 Lincolns never had a painted roof.
        <img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5210/5231004145_5a363f97b8_z.jpg&quot; width=500>

        • The Professor September 18, 2011 at 7:16 pm - Reply

          All right everyone. Tonyola isn't going to be satisfied until we have some shucked TCs to look at so we can check out their roofs. We should try for as wide of a spread of years as possible for comparison. So, who is going to step up and volunteer for some field work? I would, but I don't own a TC and I'm getting too old for this sort of nonsense. We need young men willing to sacrifice for science! And curiosity!

          • tonyola September 18, 2011 at 7:29 pm

            Remember the kludge for the Chevy Caprice Classic LS roof that was revealed a while back here on Hooniverse? Did Ford do something cheesy like this with the Lincolns to the point that they had a slather vinyl over their half-assed craftsmanship? Inquiring minds want to know!
            <img src="http://hooniverse.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/P2220580-2-720×540.jpg&quot; width=500>

          • The Professor September 18, 2011 at 7:39 pm

            Eww. No, I didn't see that one, and I'm kind of glad I didn't. That is really nasty. Ok, I've put out a call for volunteers, that's the best I can do for now. I'd like to know too, now.

  12. njhoon September 18, 2011 at 3:47 pm - Reply

    I would have to go with the 84. I like the 84 way better than the 94 which happens to be my least favorite of all the TC. But if you put a 95 to 97 in the mix I would have to go with one of those in spite of the 4.6, which I loath.

  13. yellofury September 18, 2011 at 4:28 pm - Reply

    the 94 is perfect for donk-idiocity but the top is a deal breaker….or is it?
    maybe I can practice my golf swing up there

  14. Maymar September 18, 2011 at 6:50 pm - Reply

    I'm very fond of the second-gen Town Car in Martin Blank-approved trim. But between these two, I'd go with the '84. It feels more tasteful than the dealer-installed excess of the '94, and the price difference doesn't hurt.

  15. tonyola September 18, 2011 at 7:02 pm - Reply

    Now here's something interesting – a 1980 Lincoln Town Car coupe with the vinyl roof removed. It would look pretty nice with a proper paint job, wouldn't it?
    <img src="http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/1001/2901/27501450059_large.jpg&quot; width=550>

    • The Professor September 18, 2011 at 7:20 pm - Reply

      A nice two-tone paint job would be perfect, ne?

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